Why Herbert Weinstein Tossed Wife Out 12th Floor High-rise Window

Published on November 30, 2021

On January 7th, 1991, Herbert Weinstein, a 65-year-old advertising executive, strangled his wife and tossed her body out of their New York high-rise apartment. Weinstein had admitted to murdering his wife, Barbara Weinstein. He claimed that while strangling her he "knew what [he] was doing was wrong, but could not stop doing it." What was not known at the time was Herbert Weinstein's brain had developed a large cyst, which directly affected his decision making and impulse control.

Herbert Weinstein murder apartment building 72nd street

The “hubby” threw Barbara Weinstein from the 12th floor apartment 220 E. 72nd Street.

Herbert Weinstein loved Barbara, his second wife, and Barbara felt the same about him. However, after a trivial argument broke out, both Barbara and Herbert lost their tempers, and... well, you know.

It was around 1:30pm when Herbert had thrown Barbara's body from the apartment window. The sight of her body, "clad in a blue nightgown" falling from the building, must have had been sheer terrifying to see.

A Loving Couple

Neighbors who were acquainted with the Weinstein's were in utter shock about the details of the crime.

One neighbor said: "They were a fantastic couple. This was the second marriage for both. They were very even tempered...He was quiet. He looked refined. We went out to dinner together. I can't understand what must have gone through his head. I can't understand what made him do it."

Neighbors would later say that Barbara and Herbert Weinstein were a loving couple.

Neighbors would later say that Barbara and Herbert Weinstein were a loving couple.

Regarding Barabara, one neighbor lamented: "She's an extremely fine lady. We knew her socially. We had dinner with them occasionally. She and her husband seemed to get on fine."

Another neighbor reiterated Barbara was a "well-kept person. She was always put together. Her makeup and outfit were always just so."

The Perfect Father

Friends described Herbert as a "very calm man," who never lost his temper with his wife.

So, what would make this happily married man resort to such violence?

How could Herbert Weinstein brutally beat, strangle, and then toss the body of the person he most loved out of his window?

Joni West, Herbert's daughter and youngest child, explains in her book and memoir, Full Frontal Murder, how Herbert was the perfect father who lived by a strict standard of personal guidelines.

"You could not ask for a better father... hands down." - Joni West

Barbara was Herbert's second wife. The couple met through a social connection after Herbert's first wife, Belle, lost her long and agonizing battle with lung cancer.

Herbert Weinstein in happier times with his first wife Belle.

Herbert Weinstein in happier times with his first wife Belle.

During an interview with Joni West, she told me she had just graduated highschool when her mother passed away. The tragic event pushed her to derail her plans to study at the Rochester Institute of Technology (RIT).

Joni had loved her mother Belle, but growing up, faced a challenging and emotionally abusive childhood under her mother's watchful eye.

Still, nothing could have prepared her mentally for the strong and domineering personality that Barbara, her new stepmother, would soon enforce.

"I really wanted to like Barbara, but just couldn't. I thought she was a self-centered bitch — a rich, Upper East Side snob; you know the type."

Joni West Tells All in her book, Full Frontal Murder Memoir

Joni West tells all in her book Full Frontal Murder Memoir. Amazon

Clashing Personalities

Joni and her stepmother clashed from the outset. In her memoir, she suggests that Barbara may have had a narcissistic personality disorder, which she believes led her to disregard the feelings of others and develop an increasing sense of entitlement.

She remembers her stepmother when they first met, belittling her, and purposely attempting to drive a wedge between Joni and her father.

In public, however, Barbara Weinstein would cast a well-manicured facade, comprising both opulence and compassion. But to Joni, and even to her own husband, a more tyrannical side would dominate behind closed doors.

Joni West and her stepmother Barbara Weinstein

Joni West and her stepmother Barbara Weinstein.

Sleeping Bomb

Herbert Weinstein hasn't lifted a hand in anger to anyone in the 56 years he's been alive.

Calm and collected, he lived nearly an entire lifetime, free from aggression, anger, and violence of any kind.

He would never talk badly of anyone, and treated everyone, especially the ones he loved dearly, with the utmost respect and dignity.

But on January 7th, 1991, standing in the bedroom of his luxurious 12th floor Upper East Side apartment, something inside snapped.

Herbert snapped.

Joni told me that Barbara was looking for a fight, and although it wasn't the first time, it would definitely be the last.

The game Barbara played was trivial argument, and she was damn good at playing.

Joni told me that Barbara had said something to the effect of Herbert's children reflecting badly on her, and after not getting a response that she had hoped for from her husband, Barbara went for the eyes.

Herbert stood in utter shock after his wife’s manicured red nails attempted to claw out his eyes.

Barbara tried again, this time nearly succeeding, and if it was a fight that she wanted, that is what she got.

Herbert punched his wife hard, and when she toppled to the floor, he was quickly on top of her, finishing what he had already started.

Barbara Weinstein was already dead (brutally beaten) when she was tossed out of her apartment window. Tossing her body was an afterthought for Herbert, hoping that police would consider her death accidental.

Brain Blame

Joni explains in her memoir that her father's personality has been changing, even before the murder. She says "he had this problem with empathy, which has never occurred to me before."

To Joni, and others who knew him so well, knew deep down that something was wrong with Herbert's brain.

After a closer inspection of his brain showed that Herbert has had developed an "orange-sized" cyst on his brain, primarily covering his frontal lobe.

Herbert Weinstein's brain shows an "orange-sized" arachnoid cyst.

Herbert Weinstein's brain shows an "orange-sized" arachnoid cyst.

WebMD classifies an Arachnoid cyst as the most common type. Most people are born with them, and most of the time don't have any symptoms.

However, Weinstein's cyst developed completely over his frontal lobe.

That his cyst was affecting his frontal lobe functions is very telling. Damages to the frontal lobes may be noticed by: the loss of movement, inability to plan, loss of spontaneity in interacting with others, mood fluctuations, difficulty controlling impulses, changes in personality, changes in social behaviour, reduced awareness, and reduced motivation.

The New York Times Magazine discusses Herbert's cyst and the legal implications it brought.

The New York Times Magazine discusses Herbert's cyst and the legal implications it brought.

Herbert Weinstein's brain scans was shown to the judge, who decided they could be used as evidence. This ruling also helped set the precedent for future cases using the "brain defense".

After taking a plea deal, Herbert Weinstein served 14 years in prison for the murder of his second wife, Barbara.

Herbert committed suicide 2 years after he was released to avoid going to a nursing home.

Listen to "282 | High-Rise Horror // Herbert Weinstein Tossed Wife From 12th Floor" on Spreaker.


Full Frontal Murder Memoir by Joni West (Amazon)

What are Arachnoid Cysts? (WebMD)

Brain Map Frontal Lobes (Queensland Health)

Wife tossed out window (Newsday 08 Jan, 1991)

End of ‘loving’ pair (Daily News 09 Jan 1991)

25 comments on “Why Herbert Weinstein Tossed Wife Out 12th Floor High-rise Window”

  1. Sorry, guys about the late episode. I have 5 unreleased episodes I am trying to put out. Nicole had our floors redone, the holidays, and now my in-laws are here. Lord help me. Comment on the post, or reply to someone, we're giving away Amazon giftcards the next few weeks!!

    1. It's always before Xmas when everything goes nuts! Hope you guys are all good! Please keep posts up as its looking like the uk will be in another lockdown soon!

  2. I honestly believe that had his brain injury was detected maybe it would be a different ending. Another fascinating story with love as always from the uk I was gutted there wasn't an episode last week!

    1. but I know when I see your comments that you were thinking of me, so I consider that very 'thoughtful' Marty. Let me know if you like the episode, or not, the suspense is killing me.

  3. This is the longest single episode yet. All other podcasts read Wikipedia, watch a few tictoks and then hit record, not this podcast, the research is second to none. To read the book, and then have the author on is a real win for the podcast and us listeners. You have raised the bar for this podcast and others. While this episode lacked any dick jokes it was still Great. I would love to see Jen's brain scan, I am sure the results would be interesting. Tell Dennis to keep a eye on that cougar while in town. Thank you for the entertainment you provide.

  4. Thank you for everything you guys do!! One of the only pods I donate to. love the banter! Also thank you for your service John. And happy holidays everyone!!!

  5. I'd heard about that story before, but - wow - am I glad I didn't skip this episode! Well, I never skip your podcast and, again, the thorough research and the discussions you have with each other gave a new lightning to this case... If a brain cyst could get convicted of being an accessory to the crime, that's the case where it might have! Continue your great job, my friends (and please drink responsibly.) Cheers!

    1. Annie, thank you for your nice feedback. We ALWAYS drink responsibly, well, I should say we stay indoors. Gotta love DoorDash. 🙂

  6. This was a sad one. Poor Joni had to deal with so much between the death of her mother and drama with the new stepmom only to be faced with her father committing murder because of a tumor. 🙁 I’m glad she has a cute puppy to cuddle with now. Bellini is such a fun name!

    1. I wonder how many people with a tumor have committed a murder and if it's true that the tumor caused the murder to happen I'm gonna go look it up
      do you know what a impulse is if you do can you explain it to me because I don't know

  7. I feel so bad for Joni throughout this whole episode. The poor thing had a mom pass away, a mean step mom, and a non empathetic father with a brain tumor. Damn lol. I’m glad she has a cute pruppet to cuddle with. Bellini is the perfect name for a dog.

    Keep making quality content, y’all. 100% my favorite podcast. Looking forward to when you get to my ep. request 🙂

  8. Loved this episode! I have a psych degree so I'm super interested in purchasing her book to read more about the Arachnoid Cyst (and of course the murder).

    But real question, what happened to "where we going? who we killing?"

  9. I agree with everyone who commented saying you guys put out more episodes then anyone else! BUT, I just finished every episode from the beginning to the most recent a few weeks ago so it is definitely torture waiting for new episodes to post! I was listening to 3 a day sometimes so 2 a week is killing me! (No pun intended)

    This case was so interesting, I had never heard of this type of cyst before! I love that Joanie was all out there and even though the circumstances in which her mom died was gruesome, she could come to terms with her dads illness, even though her dad may not have been able to feel empathetic, she sure had enough for the two of them!

    Love you guys!

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